Fanatec Beta Driver V361 (now V365) for CSL, CSW and Podium Bases (all wheels)

Marcel PfisterMarcel Pfister Member, Administrator, CS SWFORM V2 Beta test, DD Beta Tester, PHub Beta Tester
edited May 2020 in Beta drivers

Driver 365 available, to replace 361 which was taken down previously.   

Changelog since 361:

Firmware didn't change since 361, please check the rest of this post below for complete overview of firmware changes and the known issues. 

  • Fix for incorrectly showing inputs of the BME.  
  • Fixed old CSL E WB showing FW V1 (forcing firmware update). 
  • Bug fixed missing Gear 2 & 3 when rotary encoder is set in Mouse Emulation.  
  • Bug fixed BME firmware version showing zero and APM missing.  
  • Fixed missing encoder/funky switch display when using UH and UHX in Control Panel.  
  • Fixed incorrect SW version, APM and metal QR in Control Panel.
  • Fixed Pedal Buttons Missing in Control Panel.
  • Bug fixed "WB FW" showing no values in Control Panel.  
  • Bug fixed incorrect checking of firmware update for CSW V1.  
  • Bug fixed inconsistent SEN AUTO when P DD in COMP mode.  
  • Fixed missing buttons for Pedals in Control Panel.  

 

Important Information 

  • Hint: You should leave the DD screen on the default one with the big “FANATEC” logo as other screens, especially the analysis screens with graphs can reduce FFB quality and cause additional jolts. We are working on this. 
  • DD Power off knock: Will be fixed in the next release. The issue won't cause any damage though, no reason for concerns.  
  • DD Jolts: We had some important findings and internal testers report positive improvements, still we need further testing and fixing until we are satisfied. Please contact me directly via personal message if you have big issues with this to try out some of the internal test exports.  
  • DD and Wheel Freezes: This is our main task before releasing a new version, please contact me directly via personal message if you experience freezes. We need as detailed information as we can get. 
  • ITM pages 2-5 on BME are still disabled because there where stability issues when changing pages. This should be solved for the next release, then all pages will be available as on the DD display.  
  • Button Module Endurance not yet compatible with the CSW V2.5 or others. Please write me a personal message if you have a CSW V2.5 and bought a Button Module Endurance.


Change-log since the last public beta release 356:

Driver 361 improvements:

  • Download now features a new "Driver and Firmware Instructions" PDF. Those instructions do not replace the full manuals but they cover the driver and firmware and also feature a troubleshooting section at the end.
  • Improved detection of the BME, should not display FW version 0 or prompt unnecessary updates.
  • Improved UHX+BME detection so it isn't shown as a PHUB anymore from time to time.
  • Fixed issue that Tuning Menu parameters (SEN, FEI, FOR, SPR, DPR, ABS and SHO) in Tuning Menu Tab do not display the correct value if PDD is in COMP V2.5 mode.
  • Fixed issue in the Mouse Tab that mouse settings are enabled even if the Emulate Mouse checkbox is unchecked.
  • Fixed driver UI sometimes showing totally blank
  • Changed the minimum value of (FF, NDP, NFR, FOR, SPR and DPR) from 0 to OFF in the Tuning Menu Tab to match with the steering wheel tuning menu.
  • Added PBME default mouse settings values when Default button is clicked in Mouse Settings Tab.

Firmware improvements in general:

  • Tuning Menu Setting ABS changed the name to BLI (Brake Level Indicator). The reason is the ABS tuning menu setting never worked as real ABS and now having a real ABS setting in FanaLab causes confusion. The functionality of ABS didn't change, it is still triggering vibration when your braking input exceeds the set value.
  • The now called BLI (former ABS) tuning menu setting now also works when FanaLab or any game supports Vibration features which previously automatically disabled the ABS/BLI function. This also affected the feature on PS4, for example in GT Sport, which is solved now.
  • The minimum value of BLI (former ABS) tuning menu setting is now 1 instead of 0 to prevent constant vibration.
  • DPAD-Push of RMcL is now A on Xbox (before: nothing)
  • Fixed problem with Mappable Axis Mode on PS4

BME improvements:

  • Joystick axis up/down not inverted anymore.
  • Improved Joystick sensitivity.
  • Improved bus communication between BME and HUB to solve multiple issues:
    • ITM showing weird values while shifting quickly should appear less often.
    • Fixed FM7 on Xbox preventing tuning menu to work properly.
    • Fixed FM7 on Xbox preventing the guide button to work properly.
    • Fixed FM7 on Xbox preventing to shift properly.
  • Fixed mouse emulation working inconsistently.
  • Fixed button mapping and button combination issue not working as mentioned in the quick guide.
  • Fixed APM Mode Mappable Axes on PS4 Mode of PHUB/RUHX + PBME
  • Fixed DPAD-Push and RSB (toggled Button_24) of RUHX+PBME in PC Mode
  • BME not longer sending FunkySwitch button inputs to the Xbox while tuning menu is active.
  • Improved BME detection.

PDD improvements:

  • ITM not longer shows artifacts on page change.
  • Improved FFB feel whel display is showing a graph of the FFB analysis screens.
  • ITM/Legacy page now also accessible from the analysis and info screens. Previously the button combination did work only on the default screen.
  • Fixed SEN not working properly on XBOX since the max angle 2520 was introduced.

CSL E and CSW improvements:

  • Fixed CSW Drift mode acting like -5 on all settings
  • Fixed CSL E Drift mode overreacting on values above 2

Formula V2 improvements:

  • Font got changed to a 7-segment design which makes it possible to show significantly more types of information as the more round font was very limited to just numbers 0-9, N and R.

Known Issues:

BME known issues:

  • Still only ITM page 1 available until freezing issues of page 2-5 are solved. More ITM related topics will be covered in the upcoming FanaLab thread.
  • Turning the FunkySwitch Encoder fast results in missing inputs, especially on Xbox.
  • BME has a bug when calibrating the center and shifter after flashing the DD base firmware. Workaround is to use the buttons in the driver, a different wheel or unplug and re-plug the USB-C of the BME when it gets stuck between both calibrations.
  • MPS position is not send before one of them got turned once after when attaching the wheel.

DD known issues:

  • Jolts might still happen, still under investigation, if you experience them, contact me directly and describe it as well as possible. When it's happening, where, what it's influencing, which games and so on.
  • I've read some having random wheel base or steering wheel freezes with 356 and the firmware it contained. We are starting to investigate this and need as detailed information as possible. To prevent me missing anything contact me directly and let me know: When and where does it happen? Specific situations? What is the exact result, which function is not working anymore and which things are still working after it happens?
  • The motor still does a knock sound when turning off the base. This is under investigation and it does no harm to your DD, it's just a small peak of current.
  • Some ITM values sometimes still show incorrect values, more news about ITM in the upcoming FanaLab thread.

ClubSport Universal Hub issues:

  • Only X and B buttons work the rest is not send.

How to report issues:

If you report a driver or firmware issue, please make cross checks:

  1. Update driver and FW separately to isolate an issue. Most likely it will be driver OR firmware.
  2. Which driver OR firmware does show the issue
  3. Which driver OR firmware does not show the issue
  4. Check if you can reproduce the issue again if you go back to the version which seems to have cause the issue
  5. Post the answers gathered from the questions above + a short description of the issue including the following information:
  • Wheel Base Model (product ID): ...
  • Steering Wheel Model (product ID): ....
  • Driver Version: ....
  • Base FW Version: ....
  • Wheel FW Version: ....
  • FanaLab Version: ...


Download : (Only download if you've read everything above, especially the known issues!)


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Comments

  • Hi Marcel

    This firmware update allow podium endurance module for CSW 2.5 ?

    Best regards,

    Thomas

  • Maurice BöschenMaurice Böschen Member, CSL E RP1 PS4 beta tester, RMcL BT, CS SWFORM V2 Beta test, DD Beta Tester, PHub Beta Tester, P BME beta tester

    It's listed in the known issue list that there is NO compatibility for the CSW yet!

  • oh sorry, i did'nt see. Thank you

  • It looks like my buttons are not working since i updated the firmware (driver 361)

    I use a Clubsport Wheel Base V2.5 with a ClubSport Steering Wheel GT Forza Motorsport.

    I tried to go back to driver 356 but then I couldn't see the wheel anymore.

    Thanks

  • Maurice BöschenMaurice Böschen Member, CSL E RP1 PS4 beta tester, RMcL BT, CS SWFORM V2 Beta test, DD Beta Tester, PHub Beta Tester, P BME beta tester

    Did you made sure you changed the Base Mode back to PC? After a Firmware update the Wheel Base will default into Xbox Mode when the Universal Hub for Xbox is attached, then it cant be recognized by the pc in this mode so you have to change it back to PC mode.

  • Installation went without issues. No new issues so far. I have a feeling that the jolts depend on if the wheelbase receives either data from the game or from the sensors in the base itself. I get the jolts on every screen except the default Fanatec screen.

  • yes the ring lights red.

    I have also calibrated the wheel and my gear changes, everything works as it should in my games except the buttons.

  • Marcel PfisterMarcel Pfister Member, Administrator, CS SWFORM V2 Beta test, DD Beta Tester, PHub Beta Tester


    Thanks for reporting, just tried it and can confirm only X and B button work, the others don't register.

    Check the troubleshooting section of instructions PDF which came with 361 there are some solutions explained if the driver doesn't show a device anymore.

  • Hi Marcel,

    I currently have the problem that I can patch the DD2 base and the motor, but not the steering wheels like the new porsche wheel or the GT3 McLaren wheel.

    When i press OK, the bases crashes.

    I have completely uninstalled and reinstalled the new driver. As well as using a second computer. Same result :-(

    I install the driver in the directory C: \ Program Files \ Fanatec

  • Marcel PfisterMarcel Pfister Member, Administrator, CS SWFORM V2 Beta test, DD Beta Tester, PHub Beta Tester

    Thanks, I've updated a couple of wheels now trying to replicate the issue but so far works for me, we will try to find out why some have this problem.

  • Marcel PfisterMarcel Pfister Member, Administrator, CS SWFORM V2 Beta test, DD Beta Tester, PHub Beta Tester

    An internal beta tester tried it 5 times and with the 6th update he got the same issue as you. Maybe it could work for you to try it a couple of times more. We are looking into it.

  • Marcel PfisterMarcel Pfister Member, Administrator, CS SWFORM V2 Beta test, DD Beta Tester, PHub Beta Tester
  • Marcel PfisterMarcel Pfister Member, Administrator, CS SWFORM V2 Beta test, DD Beta Tester, PHub Beta Tester

    I've removed the download because one user has the issue of not being able to update his steering wheels anymore. We need to investigate this and don't want that and don't want that more are experiencing this issue.

  • I´m using the DD2 base

  • And, i tried it 6 (or more) times, and alway the same result

  • Marcel PfisterMarcel Pfister Member, Administrator, CS SWFORM V2 Beta test, DD Beta Tester, PHub Beta Tester

    Ok we found a workaround to get it working again, you need to download and install driver 346 and manually downgrade the base and motor firmware to. Then you can also manually update the steering wheel firmware again.

  • So are you going to make the download available again?

  • I have a problem considering the pedals , the device manager reads the 2 dd devices and and the v3 pedals but if i the dd wheelbase is on and i click on the v3 device to calibrate it opens up the wheelbase window and not the pedals , if i turn off the wheelbase the v3 is the only device shown which is normal and only then i can enter its calibration menu (pedals arent connected to wheelbase but are directly connected to pc via usb like always)

  • Maurice BöschenMaurice Böschen Member, CSL E RP1 PS4 beta tester, RMcL BT, CS SWFORM V2 Beta test, DD Beta Tester, PHub Beta Tester, P BME beta tester

    mhm thats an issue since ages, surprised that its still there. But as least you can calibrate them by turning off the DD. However, may I ask why you just dont connect the pedals to the Wheel Base directly? You would save one USB cable and you would gain the possibility to adjust everything in the DD driver panel and you gain the Brakeforce adjustment setting in the Tuning Menu...

  • Marcel PfisterMarcel Pfister Member, Administrator, CS SWFORM V2 Beta test, DD Beta Tester, PHub Beta Tester

    I don't think it's a good idea, even though this issue might only affect a few it can cause a lot of trouble I don't want people having to deal with. If someone really wants to try it even though, he can contact my privately and I can send it but be warned about the complications it might bring with it.

  • Marcel PfisterMarcel Pfister Member, Administrator, CS SWFORM V2 Beta test, DD Beta Tester, PHub Beta Tester

    Good to know I also thought this issue is fixed since a long time as I've not experienced or heard of it in a while. We will take another look then.

  • Early days of the dd1 the pedals had issues when connected directly to the base so i opted using the usb since then didnt had an issue and the resolution felt better , now idk if that is placebo or not (it propably is though) + i dont use the brakeforce adjustment anyway ! For the time being i will use the base until or if this issue is ever resolved !

    Thanks

  • Maurice BöschenMaurice Böschen Member, CSL E RP1 PS4 beta tester, RMcL BT, CS SWFORM V2 Beta test, DD Beta Tester, PHub Beta Tester, P BME beta tester

    resolution is the same no matter how you connect the CSP v3 - and Brakeforce adjustment on the fly can be very useful though ;-)

  • Ok, so when can we expect another release?

  • Marcel PfisterMarcel Pfister Member, Administrator, CS SWFORM V2 Beta test, DD Beta Tester, PHub Beta Tester
  • I was stupid enough to start the firmware update on the McLaren GT3 rim before I read about the problems here.

    The update failed for me too and the rim seems to be dead now.

    When I plug the rim the firmware updater for the rim starts immediatly but always end with following error:

    "Error: Update image failed(kStatusMemoryRangeInvalid).

    Update process is stopped by error."

    I downgraded to previous driver and base firmware again, but the error keeps for the rim. What can I do now to get a working wheel firmware on my McLaren GT3 again?

  • Sorry, didn't meant previous driver but version 346

  • Marcel PfisterMarcel Pfister Member, Administrator, CS SWFORM V2 Beta test, DD Beta Tester, PHub Beta Tester

    Really sorry for that 😥we did so many updates and it didn't happen, otherwise we wouldn't have posted it here.

    Did you try driver 346 and manually downgrading the base and motor firmware and then also manually flashing the wheel firmware again? Keep in mind if the wheel is connected, the base will start into Xbox mode and then the PC doesn't show the device.

  • edited March 2020

    yes did that. As I still have an old CSL Elite PS4 base I tried it on this base too, same result :(


    Both bases are in PC mode and also the display of the wheel is dead

  • Maurice BöschenMaurice Böschen Member, CSL E RP1 PS4 beta tester, RMcL BT, CS SWFORM V2 Beta test, DD Beta Tester, PHub Beta Tester, P BME beta tester

    mhm it seems to fail because it reads your McLaren as a CSW Formula v2...... weird

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